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Now called the Faculty of Business? (1 Viewer)
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Nah it'd be too slack to change our degrees to B Business, because that's not what we signed up for. I signed up to do a B Commerce, and that's what I should get. If they change the name well then I reckon that should only apply for people coming to the FB(faculty of business? it doesn't sound as FCE I know) in future.
Besides, they only changed the name to accomodate this AGSM thing didn't they? So there's no need to change the degree title to B Business.
Besides, they only changed the name to accomodate this AGSM thing didn't they? So there's no need to change the degree title to B Business.
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ohhh wtf.. 
.. ah well same thing anyway.
.. ah well same thing anyway.
blackfriday
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well usyd has a faculty of business and economics. maybe unsw are trying to get rid of the BEc program. it does have a lower cut-off than the equivalent club mac course. which is disgraceful.
Conspirocy
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i think usyd call it business and economics and they have com degrees
totally disrespectful to economics to remove the economics name - then again a cut of around 85 at our uni for economics is a disgrace
calibre of students at unsw has dropped significantly in economics this year, not to mention commerce
they probably are trying to get rid of the B Economics, but can you blame them – I mean how stupid can people be, it’s a degree that allows you to study whatever you want in commerce for one major subject to you doing an economics major. It used to work well at UNSW because commerce was 96 and economics was 93 (Marks at Usyd are closer and it works better there) – so you were attracting good students – the degree at UNSW is superior because of the teaching,. You can still say that about the teaching, not so sure about the students
First of all most people studying economics are in a commerce degree anyway. Second it’s the same bloody degree – the fact it has such a low cut off shows that some people applying for uni are complete idiots, most people only end up using one major anyway. Third, if more people did economics majors the world would be a better place.
Changing the name is silly, it’s the Faculty of Commerce and Economics – I don’t see the justification for using the word business when you merge with the Australian Graduate School of Management. Commerce and business are interchangeable words, its probably to satisfy someone’s ego.
totally disrespectful to economics to remove the economics name - then again a cut of around 85 at our uni for economics is a disgrace
calibre of students at unsw has dropped significantly in economics this year, not to mention commerce
they probably are trying to get rid of the B Economics, but can you blame them – I mean how stupid can people be, it’s a degree that allows you to study whatever you want in commerce for one major subject to you doing an economics major. It used to work well at UNSW because commerce was 96 and economics was 93 (Marks at Usyd are closer and it works better there) – so you were attracting good students – the degree at UNSW is superior because of the teaching,. You can still say that about the teaching, not so sure about the students
First of all most people studying economics are in a commerce degree anyway. Second it’s the same bloody degree – the fact it has such a low cut off shows that some people applying for uni are complete idiots, most people only end up using one major anyway. Third, if more people did economics majors the world would be a better place.
Changing the name is silly, it’s the Faculty of Commerce and Economics – I don’t see the justification for using the word business when you merge with the Australian Graduate School of Management. Commerce and business are interchangeable words, its probably to satisfy someone’s ego.
The name change was required for a couple of reasons.
The AGSM is a very large cluster of "schools" and following the merger we can expect that it will generally enhance research output for the faculty as a whole. So it is an integral part of research in the Faculty.
Secondly, I think the vision of the merger is to transform the faculty into something like UPenn's Wharton school which offers the full gamut of business and management degrees. As the MBA program is a one of the main selling points of the Uni, I believe that the name change is justified to backup the notion of a well-rounded business education, and that they offer more than just BCom's and BEc's.
The name change has nothing to do with undergraduate economics degree students, falling UAI cutoffs or being on par with USyd in terms of the name. The Faculty is characterised by more than just the straight 3-yr BCom/BEc students who pass through.
Also, they're not getting rid of any of the degrees. Quite the opposite, they're actually adding more specialised Commerce degrees.
The AGSM is a very large cluster of "schools" and following the merger we can expect that it will generally enhance research output for the faculty as a whole. So it is an integral part of research in the Faculty.
Secondly, I think the vision of the merger is to transform the faculty into something like UPenn's Wharton school which offers the full gamut of business and management degrees. As the MBA program is a one of the main selling points of the Uni, I believe that the name change is justified to backup the notion of a well-rounded business education, and that they offer more than just BCom's and BEc's.
The name change has nothing to do with undergraduate economics degree students, falling UAI cutoffs or being on par with USyd in terms of the name. The Faculty is characterised by more than just the straight 3-yr BCom/BEc students who pass through.
Also, they're not getting rid of any of the degrees. Quite the opposite, they're actually adding more specialised Commerce degrees.
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Conspirocy
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I'll pay that.§eraphim said:
Not really fussed, its just a name.
More concerned with the state of economics
look at the cut offs for UNSW
Degree Program 2003 2004 2005 2006
Bachelor of Commerce 95.50 96.00 95.00 93.00
Bachelor of Economics 93.15 93.00 90.05 85.00
Used to work really well about 3 marks difference and in the 90s
Look at Usyd - couldn't find them but they are closer together and still in the 90s for Eco and Com
Point is obviously this year a higher caliber of student has gone to Usyd - why is this, its clear UNSW has better teaching, and soon better facilities, plus with the merger even greater capabilities.
I know we opened up more places, and also you probably had people who wanted to do Ec taking up the new B Com/ B Ec Degree - but it would be interesting to know how many people take a B Ec at UNSW. Can't wait to see which way the marks move this year
Conspirocy
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FOB very appropriate