Not-That-Bright
Andrew Quah
Yes I believe that every single muslim voted and the poll results are infallable.do you think that every muslim voted? heck, we use a census to keep track of people, not a voting system.
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Yes I believe that every single muslim voted and the poll results are infallable.do you think that every muslim voted? heck, we use a census to keep track of people, not a voting system.
Please don't write like that in here.UnIqUe_PrInCeSs said:u know wat i reckon..................not all muslims r terrorists---------- n those who r terrorists arent following islam the right way...............i mean........all da normal muslims know dat committing suicide, damaging property n killing others is completely forbbiden in islam..........so wat da hell hell do these crazy terrorists think they r doing........a "good deed". like seriously wat freaks..............they r totally putting da reputation of muslims down da drain...............i hope all these psycho terrorists die!!!!!!!!for da sake of da normal muslims
Not-That-Bright said:If you can't accept jokes about your religion that's your problem - no one elses. Your religion is a belief and like any belief it can be criticised by others. I don't really care that you or any of these muslims take their religion 'seriously', I take my criticism of their religion seriously too.
edit: By the way, as davin pointed out.. they are not simply 'jokes'. Their purpose is to make a brash statement about a topic in a politically incorrect fashion in order to be attention-grabbing while also making a subtle point. For example, you can look at the picture of muhammed with a bomb as his turbin and say 'they're saying all muslims are terrorists!' or you can look at it and say (I imagine this is closer to the case) that it was pointing out how muhammed's teachings have been manipulated to suit the purpose of these terrorists.
Actually there was very little reaction, as with most satirical comics which are placed within newspapers criticising others in an overt way - there were critics... However it did not recieve this crazy reception until some muslims whom were banned from denmark started to spread rumours about it etc...
In their case - the state is at fault... state-run/heavily controlled media.
I don't get this? Because we don't live in the 'ideal world' we should abandon notions of free speech? We've fought a long time for this and will continue to fight for it - this is not a negotiable thing in our society.
The only reason that we have such a great country is due to the freedoms we have granted our citizens... The backlash from the middle east in response to these cartoons has been a direct attack against those freedoms. They argue against the society which has given them the right to argue against society :/
Well... that might have a bit more clout when you're a child, or living in a fundamentalist country with strict controls on information.... However when you're living in Australia - and you're an adult - you do have real choice.
Yes - Every religion has their share of idiots (even those in power). By the way, what did we do to hitler when he came out against out society?
Probably, but the muslims on BOS are not the muslim consensus of the world.
i reken j00 gust prooved hiz point har har har u iz a freak!UnIqUe_PrInCeSs said:wtf? r u mocking me u freak??? do i like like a bimbo to u![]()
That's because racism is an unjustified position, however criticism of religion is a justified position - you cannot criticise a race.For example, advocacy of racist groups such as the KKK is not politically correct. Hence freedom of speech shouldn't even be used to justify these publications, for true freedom of speech isn't even part of our society. If such was actively encouraged legitimately, we'd be living in a fucked place.
I've suggested that the purpose of the cartoon was the illustrate the way in which muhammed's teachings have been hijacked by these terrorists - it seems to fit in better with the nature of the article it accompanied.Secondly, some of these cartoons are just downright insensitive and quite unnecessarily inflammatory. One cartoon, which depicts Mohammad's turban as a bomb obviously attempts toward a sly generalisation that Muslims in general are terrorists.
So they're comming out and threatening us with terrorist actions?No wonder they're angry, considering true followers of Islam know that the religion doesn't boast affinity for terrorism in any sense of the word (hence the notion of an 'Islamic terrorist' is oxymoric).
I think there are quite a few of these people, however I also don't think that's true of all people.If anything, I just think we have alot of xenophobic people around, boasting clear dislike of Muslims using the old immunity card of 'freedom of speech' to justify these cartoons.
Alot of cartoons are 'unnecessary', they still get published for the purpose of making some brazen politically-incorrect statement, drawing attention to the article etc. I would no doubt be in support of the muslims in this case whom were out-raged, and expressed this outrage peacefully (however I would probably still say they're not that bad)...So in conclusion, it would help alot if the Muslims learnt to relax a bit over the issue, but these cartoons were clearly unnecessary in the first place.
Of course not. I would never dare staple down such generalisations.. unlike certain cartoons floating around at the moment. The point is if it's accepted that many people are indeed motivated by these xenophobic thoughts, then obviously we're gonna have alot of biased non-sensical arguments in here (erm.. usually from those people of course). Which should be true of course, since again, we're talking about generalising Muslims in general as terrorists.. a notion most absurd. E.g, the person who penned that cartoon obviously was an ignorant douche.I think there are quite a few of these people, however I also don't think that's true of all people.
I am a jew - but I'm not an evil one, I am nice.dawma88 said:seriosly how many jews do we have here ??
How is calling Muslims terrorists any different from asserting that all capitalists are fat greedy pricks, or that all communists are grubby arts students with long hair?JKDDragon said:We're not talking about if critisising religions is politically correct or not. We both know the answer to that. The main point is these cartoons want to assert Muslims in general as terrorists, a generalisation seemingly bred out of xenophobia (that's the only way it can make sense to me; proper rationale would never result in such ill-conceived assertions). People can say whatever they wish about Islam, but the issue here is generalising attributes of the religion against all members, attributes which aren't even correct in the first place.
Of course not. I would never dare staple down such generalisations.. unlike certain cartoons floating around at the moment. The point is if it's accepted that many people are indeed motivated by these xenophobic thoughts, then obviously we're gonna have alot of biased non-sensical arguments in here (erm.. usually from those people of course). Which should be true of course, since again, we're talking about generalising Muslims in general as terrorists.. a notion most absurd. E.g, the person who penned that cartoon obviously was an ignorant douche.
I know, right. When does your next video come out, Paris?UnIqUe_PrInCeSs said:wtf? r u mocking me u freak??? do i like like a bimbo to u![]()
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2025704,00.htmlBRITAIN’s leading Islamic body yesterday called on Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan police commissioner, to press charges against the extremists behind last week’s inflammatory protests in London over the “blasphemous” cartoons of the prophet Muhammad.
I think those are pretty bad, cos otherwise you wont see such violence. But the cartoons are unnecessary, other cartoons are criticisms, where as this one is pure insulting.Not-That-Bright said:Alot of cartoons are 'unnecessary', they still get published for the purpose of making some brazen politically-incorrect statement, drawing attention to the article etc. I would no doubt be in support of the muslims in this case whom were out-raged, and expressed this outrage peacefully (however I would probably still say they're not that bad)...
who u callin innocent? its not easy to kill someone. and ppl dont kill just like tat, not at least 1000 ppl.tempco said:Yikes, 7%? That's pretty high. There's approximately 1.6 million Muslims in the UK... I mean even if 1% of Muslims voted, that's 1,120 Muslims who think that innocent people deserved to die.
that book was written by a guy called ahmed deedat. he is a islamic scholar on christianity (hehe, sounds strange huh?) anyway, here are two websites. one is his homepage. see he's not a bad person after all, he let you read his books, one of them being the above mentioned book, for free!moonlight_angel said:as well as various anti-Christian titles (Crucifixion -- or Cruci-FICTION?).
typical, dont judge without knowing full knowledge.veterandoggy said:that book was written by a guy called ahmed deedat. he is a islamic scholar on christianity (hehe, sounds strange huh?) anyway, here are two websites. one is his homepage. see he's not a bad person after all, he let you read his books, one of them being the above mentioned book, for free!
also there is another page which has Videos of debates made between ahmed deedat and christian evangelists, one of them the well known Jimmy Swaggart.
from these websites you can notice how "anti-christian" he is, and you will also have more than enough reasons as to why he has his stance on christianity. i doubt the article writer actually read anything about the book, he just looked at the cover.