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  1. SabtheLab

    Should i read the bible?

    The Quran is about 1/5 the size of the Bible and much more enlightening. Ive read both many times so id know. Free of any contradictions, embracing and encouraging science and the pursuit of knowledge, it really will leave you feeling refreshed and amazed. It guides every aspect of your life and...
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    Muslim cleric: women incite men's lust with 'satanic dress'

    ok then lets talk about provocation. perhaps this isnt the right word to use. how about involuntary incitement. of course, theyre not asking to be raped but nevertheless, through their own behaviour and dress ( or lack of) they are inciting the lust of men. and thats exactly what theyre aiming...
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    Muslim cleric: women incite men's lust with 'satanic dress'

    ive noticed that law dude seems to be forgetting the difference between idealism and reality. idealistically, a woman is weel within her right s to wear whatever the hell she wants to wear and not be bothered by it. realistically, however, thats assuming too much. some guys(i will refrain from a...
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    Anti Islam converence lists Abbot

    sweetheart, just to clear a few things up....if you mean dirty as in physically, well, muslims wash at least 5 times a day. if you mean dirty as in psycholgically perhaps, then i suppose if you consider tolerance, peace, helping the poor, not harming humans and animals, not bitching about each...
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    Islam

    heybraham, noone is denying the scientific facts displayed in the bible all those millenia ago. in fact i, and every muslim would agree, that these facts were presented by God. however, the Bible itself was changed, misinterpreted and corrupted over the course of time and this has hindered it's...
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    Should i read the bible?

    yes i know Genesis has been lost in translation and i understand that there were six steps but that doesnt account for the discrepancy in the chronological order of creation according to science. Genesis has the order of creation very mixed up. Back to the lost in translation, thats my point-...
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    Should i read the bible?

    u see thats just my point. they are accounts of the same event yet are told differently. for something to be the infallible word of god, it must be free from errors and contradictions. The Bible as a whole is considered the word of God yet has in it contradictions. contradictions between the 4...
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    Muslim cleric: women incite men's lust with 'satanic dress'

    ozgirl, it's understandable that ur fed up with these leb boys terrorising australian women. what you have to understand is that the behaviour of an individual is not always reflective of their faith. yes these boys happen to be muslim but that in no way is indicative of their belief system. as...
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    Muslim cleric: women incite men's lust with 'satanic dress'

    leeton, by no means am i suggesting that females are deserving of this kind of treatment nor am i excusing rape as a consequence of natural male urges. what i am saying and i have no problem in saying this, is by parading her half-naked body, a woman will be attracting the stares and desires of...
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    Muslim cleric: women incite men's lust with 'satanic dress'

    soha, ur right. the women DOESNT deserve it but to some degree she is at fault. we cant just pin it completely on the guy.i mean if were talking allegorically in legal terms, rape due to skimpy clothing should be considered a provoked attack. unintentionally yes, but nevertheless, it was...
  11. SabtheLab

    Muslim cleric: women incite men's lust with 'satanic dress'

    i agree with sepulchres. Idealistically, a woman should be able to wear what she wants without fear of rape or assault. But we need to remove our rose-coloured glasses, turn a deaf ear to the screams of raging feminists and face reality. The male race (sorry to all the guys, but it's true)by...
  12. SabtheLab

    Should i read the bible?

    Im also a Muslim and ive read the Bible a couple of times. I found way too many contradictions, errors and scientific inconsistencies to really afford it the status of being the Word of God. I believe God did send the Gospels down with the Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) however over time, (as...
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    Muslim cleric: women incite men's lust with 'satanic dress'

    True. Here's a poem from sydneyislamicyouth.com about the hijab. It hits the nail on the head and shows that, contrary to the popular Western view, Muslim women are not forced to wear the hijab by their so-called "oppressive" husbands (although unfortunately this is a reality for only a few...
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    Muslim cleric: women incite men's lust with 'satanic dress'

    Interesting debate I have one question....how did the debate go from sheikh feiz to india?? ppl stay focused. Oh and i agree with tangerine....sheikh khaled yasin is fantastic. extremely dynamic, moderate and an absolute inspiration to us all. he's having an interfaith dialogue next wednesday...
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