Scaling - General and Advanced english the same? (1 Viewer)

[Grandor]

According to the scaling page for 2003, general and advanced english scaled the same in the UAI.

Why is this??? Isn't advanced HARDER ?

 

[a8o]

Yes, but only a couple of people got band 6 in standard.

 

[Danoz The Great]

so,

out of a person who goes absolutely shithouse at advanced, and a standard person who gets band 6, the standard english person will get a better mark all up?

 

[mizz_smee]

yes but if u do shithouse i advanced
i doubt you will be able to get a band six in standard

 

[AntiHyper]

Ok.. If you can come first for assessment marks (your rank is 1) then you'll get the highest mark in the class for the external exam instead of your assessment mark.
So my advice is if you dont mind being have to bother with your assessments theres no real point in doing a harder course

 

[Grandor]

If I get 80 in Advanced, I could very well get 95 in Standard.
You know what I mean?
If their scaled the same, then itsnt standard the way to go?

 

[QuaCk]

keep in mind that some uni degree expect advanced english to be completed.

edit: most

 

[A l]

If I get 80 in Advanced, I could very well get 95 in Standard.
You know what I mean?
If their scaled the same, then itsnt standard the way to go?

No, it is not. Refer to the thread 'Advanced English vs. Standard English' and you can see why in a bit more detail. The standards setting procedure ensures that a BAND 6 AWARDED TO A STANDARD COURSE STUDENT IS EQUIVALENT TO A BAND 6 AWARDED TO AN ADVANCED COURSE STUDENT, and so on.

According to 2004 HSC results of English (Advanced) around 50 percent of students scored band 5 (42.53%) and band 6 (7.56%). If you scored 80 in English (Advanced), you'd be in an average percentile ranking (around 50th percentile). That means that the HSC aligned mark of 80 in English (Advanced) would be equivalent to a HSC aligned mark of about 70 in English (Standard) if you were to follow that ranking since they are aligned as one course. English (Standard) is not necessarily the easier course.

In terms of scaling this means your ranking in the state of BOTH English (Advanced) and English (Standard) candidates would depend on your percentile in the English course you take. So in other words regardless of marks, since scaling is all about rankings, if you top English (Standard) that means it is the equivalent of topping English (Advanced), therefore equivalent to topping the state on the common scale.

 

[Casmira]

No, it is not. Refer to the thread 'Advanced English vs. Standard English' and you can see why in a bit more detail. The standards setting procedure ensures that a BAND 6 AWARDED TO A STANDARD COURSE STUDENT IS EQUIVALENT TO A BAND 6 AWARDED TO AN ADVANCED COURSE STUDENT, and so on.

According to 2004 HSC results of English (Advanced) around 50 percent of students scored band 5 (42.53%) and band 6 (7.56%). If you scored 80 in English (Advanced), you'd be in an average percentile ranking (around 50th percentile). That means that the HSC aligned mark of 80 in English (Advanced) would be equivalent to a HSC aligned mark of about 70 in English (Standard) if you were to follow that ranking since they are aligned as one course. English (Standard) is not necessarily the easier course.

In terms of scaling this means your ranking in the state of BOTH English (Advanced) and English (Standard) candidates would depend on your percentile in the English course you take. So in other words regardless of marks, since scaling is all about rankings, if you top English (Standard) that means it is the equivalent of topping English (Advanced), therefore equivalent to topping the state on the common scale.

so in english, if you top either you will go well?

 

[A l]

so in english, if you top either you will go well?

Yes, and both should require an equal level of effort to do so.

 

[Casmira]

thought so, if you hit band 6 in eng wouldnt it be considered harder/more scaling than band 6 in advanced considering youd most likely be one of none or two people in the STATE to get tha band?

 

[sladehk]

how does that work?

 

[a8o]

thought so, if you hit band 6 in eng wouldnt it be considered harder/more scaling than band 6 in advanced considering youd most likely be one of none or two people in the STATE to get tha band?

But the canditure is lower tiered. They don't do as well in their other subjects.

 

[sladehk]

can someone plz explain?