Favourite Prime Minister (1 Viewer)

[Korn]

Who is ur favourite Australian Prime Minister?
When i was young i reckoned pisshead was a good prime minister, sorry i mean Bob Hawke

 

[zahid]

Paul Keating = LEGEND

 

[beccaxx]

ive only really had john howard 2 go by... i was 2 little b4 and i lived overseas 4 awhile 2. politics wasnt really an issue 4 me when i was younger so ive only really seen john howards reign

 

[line_backer]

Mark Latham

 

[zahid]

Mark Latham

Fav Prime minister?

 

[bitchgirl]

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...............you!

 

[Korn]

ive only really had john howard 2 go by... i was 2 little b4 and i lived overseas 4 awhile 2. politics wasnt really an issue 4 me when i was younger so ive only really seen john howards reign

Well when i was a kid, it meant nothing to me either, i just thought he sounded and looked cool, as well as he drank

 

[line_backer]

politics wasnt really an issue 4 me

how about interest rates?

 

[zahid]

...............you!

how NICE. I wish i was.

 

[bitchgirl]

john howard....for now
mark latham???? are you kidding? he was just the opposition who lost alot of hair when he was defeated in the 2004 election.

 

[line_backer]

ur obviously another up-tight conservative middle-class liberal stooge... wat has howard done? answer: screw up unions, divided rich and poor (uni fees, health care etc etc), good economic management my ass; look at the current account deficit, rising inflation and interest rates, de-regulation of tertiary education to make it harder for the poor to access uni's, killing social security, de-regulation of labour market pushing wages down (enterprise bargaining), not funding public school enough, reducing taxes for the rich (may 2004 budget, everyone over $50,000 gets tax breaks - no one under $50,000), straining economic ties between china and australia by not commiting to a position over taiwan, lying about children over-board, iraq, lying about keeping interest rates low (spending big before election and increasing aggregate demand =>inflation=> .25% rise in rates), doing nothing about james hardie, not protecting tasmanian forests, not protecting domestic employment (e.g. qantas) etc etc....

 

[Korn]

In alot of those cases it is not within his power to do anything, and anyways Latham has never and never will be Prime Minister, because he left politics

 

[Scanorama]

ME!


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[Xayma]

de-regulation of tertiary education to make it harder for the poor to access uni's,

How the hell has that made it harder for the poor to access university?

Even if it was fully privatised it wouldn't be harder, as long as low interest loans (or 0% Interest!) that don't have to be paid back till full time employment are available, it is available for the poor.

Oh maybe you mean the introduction of VSU, where he will remove the compulsory fees, since not having to pay fees makes it much harder to afford university. Oh wait.

 

[Jonathan A]

Favourate Prime Minister: Sir Robert Gordon Menzies

 

[Jonathan A]

ur obviously another up-tight conservative middle-class liberal stooge... wat has howard done? answer: screw up unions,

You obviously another person who follows the ALP. The Unions do jack half the time. THey take fees off vulnerable workers, give them discounts and cause trouble in businesses. They can really pound into our economy if they desire and Howard is trying to make it fairer for employers who ensure there is the bread and butter and the income to fund unions.

divided rich and poor (uni fees, health care etc etc),


Typical argument of all lefties. What else is on the back of the matchbox you are reading from.


good economic management my ass; look at the current account deficit, rising inflation and interest rates, de-regulation of tertiary education to make it harder for the poor to access uni's,

CAD is a problem, but not much the government can do whe its mainly consumer behaviour that affects the market, unless you want to be told by law what to buy.

De-regulating tertiary education: you havn't really stated any compelling argument. How is it making it harder for the poor?


killing social security,


Don't think this is a bad idea. Not the fault of the working population that people want to bludge off the system and our taxes. There are many genuine applicants, but given our small population it is fitting for a government to encourage that more people work.

de-regulation of labour market pushing wages down (enterprise bargaining),

Not everyone wants to be in a union and walk around the ASX looking for movements and judging their wages.

not funding public school enough,


Ask Bob Carr first. He taxes us enough.


reducing taxes for the rich (may 2004 budget, everyone over $50,000 gets tax breaks - no one under $50,000),

That's why labor didn't want to increase the tax bracket and that's why labor wants to penalise those who work extra. You don't have any regard for those who want to work more for penalty rates do you?

straining economic ties between china and australia by not commiting to a position over taiwan,

...when we have a substantial amount of both Taiwanese and Chinese people in Australia.


lying about children over-board,

Ancient now, but while we are at it, did you wanna throw in issues about good old Nick Griener in the early 1990s?



iraq,

I like how you pre-suppose people have the same point of view as you...

lying about keeping interest rates low (spending big before election and increasing aggregate demand =>inflation=> .25% rise in rates),


As if labor could do any better.

doing nothing about james hardie,

Under what law or constitutional power would the Federal Government intervene?

not protecting tasmanian forests,

But protecting jobs

not protecting domestic employment (e.g. qantas)

You should understand that the current federal government is veyr much into the liberties of businesses. Funny you should mention qantas.

 

[Iron]

I'll be creative and say Chiefly.

'Seeking the sum of him, they'd later say
That he lacked greatness or lacked flair a bit:
But so-called great ones, and the ones with flair,
Are ones so often get us in the shit...'

 

[zahid]

Every PM since Menzies to Keating...Fraser's constitutional crisis is made up for by his older persona.

John Howard is Australia's worst PM. He offends so many basis tenents of politics from accountability to community consultation to running small target elections in order to win. His party has done everything in order to limit the role of departments that are meant to keep the executive in check.

He is a man that will do anything in order to win an election even thought it is politically immoral...

He is Australia's most successful PM because he appeals to the majority's self interest and sets clear and defined goals and guidlines. He appeals to apathy by using self interest and nationalism. To many this is his greatest crime more so than his economic policy etc etc. It is his methods which irk people. Appealing to self interest instread of even attempting to appeal to everyone. You would hope that a government attempts to legislate for everyone's interests not simply the majority (which isnt very big in Australia) - or at least pay some attention to those who are not part of the majority. This government is confortable enough not to have to talk to anyone at all.

He is the ultimate conservative politician in the world. In this respect he is one of the greatest.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Asquithian again.

 

[line_backer]

You should note Jono A that most of your arguments are just as thin as the arguments you are responding to.

LOL...well said. I'm actually a liberal supporter if you read my other posts. LOL

 

[Jonathan A]

I dont think anyone in your family ever had a redundancy delivered to them as a result of the work of the union. Union hating really irks me. All those workers laid off from plants got their redundanices and pay that was outstanding. I doubt they would have gotten anything without the union.

You should note Jono A that most of your arguments are just as thin as the arguments you are responding to.

It's good sitting on the fence, but your bottom gets sore after a while.