The reason that that's a poor analogy is because on a beach there are none of the materials for the creation of a watch. Should there be other little bits of watch lying around on the beach and the raw materials, and varying degrees of watch formation, then we wouldn't find it so incredible...
I don't know, at one stage I thort u was all 'no everything is for freedom' but then at another one you were all like 'don't be a dickhead welfare is good and we need to restrict some freedums'
dan, you and I have never had to worry about not having enough food or a roof over our heads. We have had internet and computers and the resources for school and a stimulating upbringing. Our parents are intelligent and foster that sort of growth.
That's why we can focus on what we want to do...
You guys always use these select 'make it themselves' stories, but ignore all the times it doesn't. Like chadd said, the stats are against you, and the reasons are because they got some help at some point - something that would not be an option if you had your way and there were no social...
Coming from the north shore rich boy.
You've never had to worry about food or money or education, of course no body else would have to at the age of 7 either. They're a waste of money and time. THey basically deserve to be there if they can't get off their asses and make something of themselves...